Episode 16
Trying to Show in ChatGPT Results? Do This First
What’s actually changing with SEO in the age of AI—and what do health pros and service providers need to do about it?
In this episode, I’m joined by Jess Freeman, award-winning web designer for fitness and wellness professionals, host of the BrandWhys podcast, and the founder of Jess Creatives. She’s been building strategic, no-fluff websites for over a decade and has helped hundreds of experts get found online—and now she’s breaking down what AI is doing to the SEO game.
If you’ve been wondering how to show up in AI tools like ChatGPT, this episode pulls back the curtain on what’s really happening behind the scenes of AI search—and why it’s not the same old Google game. Jess and I dig into what clarity actually means in the context of content and visibility, what you need to fix before worrying about keywords, and how to position yourself as “the best answer” inside the new AI ecosystem.
Plus, we talk about how we’re bringing this conversation into real-time strategy and support through The Ordinary Virtual Summit, our brand-new event for digital business owners who are ready to build sustainable, searchable, and sales-ready businesses.
👀 Learn more and grab your ticket at https://theordinarybusiness.com
“Your homepage shouldn’t be a vibe—it should be a map.” — Jess Freeman
🎧 Drop in on the conversation to hear:
What’s actually changed with AI and SEO (and what’s stayed the same)
Why blog content isn’t your golden ticket to visibility
The key difference between being found on Google vs. in ChatGPT
How clarity in your copy directly impacts your ability to rank
Simple, practical things to update today on your website
The case for using YouTube and podcast interviews to boost your AI visibility
And… all the juicy details about our upcoming event, The Ordinary Virtual Summit!
What You’ll Learn
00:02:40 – How AI search is different from traditional SEO
00:06:55 – Jess’s spicy opinion about blog content and ChatGPT rankings
00:11:22 – The biggest mistake people make when trying to “rank”
00:17:10 – Why clarity is more powerful than cleverness in your homepage copy
00:21:30 – Visibility strategies beyond your website
00:27:12 – How to know if your website content is confusing AI tools
00:32:15 – What to audit on your site before creating new content
00:38:50 – The power of YouTube and podcasts in AI visibility
00:43:12 – What Jess and I are co-creating inside The Ordinary Virtual Summit
00:47:40 – Who this summit is for—and why we’re doing it differently
00:52:00 – Jess’s final advice: if you only do one thing this quarter, let it be this
Resources Mentioned:
Jess’s free audio training on AISO: https://jesscreatives.com/rank-in-chatgpt
Jess’s site: https://www.jesscreatives.com
The Ordinary Virtual Summit: https://theordinarybusiness.com
Jess on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jesscreatives
Your Next Steps:
Work with Me: https://www.traciepatterson.com/connect
Ask Me Anything About Business: https://traciepatterson.com/ama
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CREDITS
Music: ColourfulSounds
Podcast Editor: Maia McLachlan
Photo: WorkPlay Branding